This is a discussion about of first book, suggested by knew. We will begin reading this by Tuesday july 18th, and hope to finish reading it by the 28th!

Everyone will get 10 days, as this is a new thing we are trying, and hopefully we can figure out the best timeframe for doing this, as we don't want to overload everyone including myself.

As we go along the book, hit the NOTIFY ME WHEN A REPLY IS POSTED, when you post in this thread, and you will receive emails about the discussions via email when we talk about this book.

For the kindle owners, this book is avaliable on the kindle for cheap, if you start reading early that is great as we can begin our dicussions, this is an OPEN forum, please just POST in THIS THREAD about this book, and we will do other threads for the next books. I look forward to sharing some ideas with everyone.

I just ordered it on my kindle, I will have it done by the 18th, and I will be starting some discussions here, to kick start it, or if your brave you can be the first. This a new thing, and I look forward to working with everyone to see if we can grow together on this.

Start on Tuesday, July 18th, to July 28th (and in-between) post and subscribe to this thread. You can start early too, look forward to it.

Hey Wes,

I confused with the dates. Do you mean start on the 18th and finish on the 28th? Or maybe start on the 15th and finish on the 22nd?

Tuesday the 8th for me passed me a couple of days ago. I haven't figured out how to time travel, but if you know let us know.

The timestamp on the post also says the 13th...

I'm confused...

Silly me yes your right July 8th already passed.

July 18th - 28th! thanks Hoo! Fixed

Bought my copy and will start reading away!

Hey all,

I got my Kindle and downloaded the first book.

Let's read!

Pete

While reading and taking notes (What all critical readers should do).

If I can make a suggestion: have a template outline of what we should discuss or perhaps the shot-gun method would be more effective. In either case here are a few questions for reflection.

What am I learning? (I.E. What am I taking away from this book)

Action Items: (What are concrete action items that I can put into my daily routine or activities)

I haven't bought the book yet, because finding books in Korea and lack of Amazon and Kindle make it a tad difficult. However, I'll have it read by the due date.

Feel free to chime in.

I am going to buy the book today!

I don't really like this book. I'm like half way done with it and there are some things I disagree on already. Like with all books, they do have their points but it also recycles a lot of what is said in other books as well.

To some extent, I've never fully agree with any book 100% before but this one is definitely on the lower end of the spectrum. I'll read it all the way through before making a final judgment but I think the outlook isn't that great so far.

I'm on about chapter 2 so far, I have to say its good information, although I'd say it is pretty basic on the fundamentals of taking challenge of one's life, and it is our responsibility to take full-action of our future.

I do like how it kicks you in the butt however, in some instances, where it says, if your making x amount, even if $500,000 a year, and after 5 years your still making the same, why is it not growing, and get going.

Will keep reading through, what's your guys' thoughts on it too? Do you have a millionaire blueprint?

I hate to say it, but I am not too fond of the book either. The author does repeat a lot of the, "it's your parent's fault that you're not rich," type mind set talk that I see a lot already. I don't think that blaming someone else for your own failure is the way to go.

Jim Rohn said it best in 'The Art of Exceptional Living' with his own life's story and how he changed. You are where you are and do what you do in life because of you philosophy. Of course our philosophy is influenced by our parents, teachers, and other mentors in life, but what is the point in looking back and blaming all of them?

I don't mean to be too harsh, but this book doesn't seem on par with Think and Grow Rich.

Nonetheless, I'm going to keep reading the book to see if it gets better.

By the way, does it seem like this guy plugs his seminar almost every chance that he gets?

I know one of the things I dislike about it that came up today is he is an advocate and supposedly close friend of Robert Kiyosaki and the Rich Dad Poor Dad series and I simply can't stand those books.

I'm like towards the end already.

Okay I definitely have to rag on this piece of shit book some more. First off, here is a quote directly from the book...

Is this guy retarded, if everyone was in business, no one would be an employee. I don't know about him but I like to go to restaurants and know someone is catering to me, taking my orders, etc. I like to know that someone picks up the trash from my house every week. I like knowing someone is "working" so that I have electricity, internet, etc... For the world it be able to sustain itself, employees are a must. Regardless of the fact of whether or not that's a good thing on a personal level or not. That aside, business is NOT for everyone. Some people prefer to be employees or can't be in business and that is perfectly fine. In my honest opinion, there have been millionaires who made it working and it's a matter of preference. I believe this guy has a pretty damn diluted view.

BTW, he's also an advocate of network marketing or MLM. While there is nothing wrong with network marketing itself, majority of the ones out there are pretty much one giant pyrimid after another and only few of them are really made out to be the real thing (aka people promoting things they believe in while trying to sell others into getting in, others who actually believe in the product and not the money behind it).

I like it when he says, "the only way to change your level of financial success, you have to reset your financial thermostat" .. although, nothing new just in his words differently, i like.

I'm just about diving into part two of the book. I agree, that some of the stuff he repeats a lot from other books I've read. he even talks about the law of attraction and releasing positive energy into the universe. He stresses the importance of committing to be rich and not just wanting to be rich. "Never complain, try to justify or blame others or you'll be a crap magnet".. okay.. i think, i read something like this before..

Yea, he does mentions a lot about his seminar and sometimes when i'm reading a section it's like reading a sales letter to attend the seminar to learn more. I dunno, i get that feeling sometime. Let's see how this book ends..

Agreed, I guess we'll see what happens in the end.

"Points to head," "I have a millionaire mind!", "points to you", "so do you!"

Yes I'm trying to think of right now the lessons I've learned, maybe I'm reading to fast, but I can't think of any concert examples at this point in time that I can really see making a difference at this moment time after reading some other books.

The one minute entrepreneur was also pretty dismal, it was just bunch of stuff that has already been talked about in other books, I wouldn't recommend it if you are a serious reader, but books like theses are definitely good for first time reads, it just seems after so many books theses types don't really have any value for anyone who is a little more sophisticated. Good, but repeat knowledge we already, know, if its good to hammer it into our minds, maybe.

Is anyone implementing anything from this book? The best part I liked about it so far was that if your income is the same, and not growing, something is wrong and we need to get going, as something isn't working right.

From what I am hearing and observations, everyone is saying that they have heard this all before, read it before? But it shouldnt be a surprise to you? Cause you should assume that all Self Made Millionaires have similar traits, they do similar things, so again whoever writes these books are following exactly the same thing as other millionaires.

Norm

I just started reading the book today, and am about half way through the first part. (I'm taking a little break right now)

But so far I like what I've read, and to be honest I haven't read too many books on mindset before so all of this stuff is pretty new to me, and I like it.

And I would have to agree with him on picking up traits from your parents. It isn't really blaming your parents its more of knowing what gave you your mindset and what you believe, and this is the start to changing your beliefs. Like he said changing the roots will help to change the fruit.

It really helped me open my eyes to how i deal with my money, and why I've been doing that.

"Personally, I believe just about everyone should own their own business, be it full-time or part-time. The first reason is that by far, the vast majority of millionaires became rich by being in their own business."

I haven't gotten to this point yet, but yes not everyone wants to own a business, or even can. But i think he just believes this is the easiest way to becoming wealthy, after all this is a book on Secrets of the Millionaire Mind.

And the MLM I have no idea what he says about that yet, but what i know of MLM so far.... i would have to disagree with him there.

I know what you guys mean. However, I don't think the author has given me anything original yet. It's more like he is just regurgitating stuff from TGR and other books like it in the form of analogies.

Hey Wes,

Are we going to have some kind of a rating scale for books when everybody gets done reading them? - Sort of an archive that shows something like a star rating and a one or two sentence comment from each forum member.

agreed.

AWESOME, glad it is helping!

Is this something you'd like if so I can add it for everyone, but it probably won't be until about week 3.

It is exciting to see everyone on the same book though, this is fun already. and of course informative!

Thats what I think part of the issue is. If you haven't been exposed enough to something like this, it's often times harder to really understand whether it's good or bad advice. People have a habit of going with what seemingly validates their own beliefs and you'll understand later on why a lot of this stuff is recycled garbage that you see all the time. Often time, your first book in this area will always be one that indirectly influence you in one way another.

I found more garbage on this shit and the age old message of how theres no money 101 class back in college. I swear each and every one of these god damn mother fuckers keep repeating the same shit and you know they're making their fortune more on selling books than anything they actually do.

I agree. A big problem that I have whenever I pick up self-help or success books is that the genre is somewhat polluted with garbage. And because the garbage imitates the great material so well it makes it hard for me to differentiate between the two.

I have learned not to ask myself whether or not the author is a genuine success himself, but if he truly wants to help his readers. In our current book it seems like the author just hypes up his own experience and then repeats some age old philosophies about success. I have yet to see this author give out any great info without plugging his conference.

But I can only say that I have read a few books in this genre, so what do I know...

I think books have more value when they give out tips that are applicable aka things you can actually apply. And by stating that, I don't just mean the same old mindset info that is being recycled in each book but actual emphasis on actions that can be taken. These books are more on developing the attitude, the so-called mindset (which every one of them do anyway), and almost nothing on process. And to some extent I strongly agree mindset is a big part of it, but having the mindset alone doesn't do crap. I'm not asking them to give me the secret to their business but simply something more than just developing my mindset, habits, etc... I got that already. Even if it's just one applicable tip, that would at least make the book worth something (although miniscule).

I just finished 4-hour, and i was thinking about going through this on the kindle, but given most of the unfavorable reviews, i may have to pass on this one. I've already had my fair share of biz books, and they all tend to recycle material like what one said.

I feel like I have the mindset that all these books promote, now just gimme a freakin business plan! :)

You're asking for the wrong thing. Asking for a business plan is like asking them to feed you on a silver platter. I prefer they give me concepts I can apply and learn on my own. Copying someone else's business plan isn't going to help you grow, all it'll do is hinder your success by giving you an exact copy of what they do.

Everyone derives information differently but it's the applicable concepts that we take away and what we each choose to do with them that makes it valuable to our growth and success. You don't want a business plan, and if you really did, they already gave you one. Write a recycled book on development, name it something catchy, and bam, you'll be bankrolling in no time with us ragging on it all day long LOL

Haha, I guess sarcasm is something difficult to evoke through the internet. =)

Again, I'm not looking for anything on a silver platter, I think a lot of development books focus on the same thing over and over again -- Mindset. In some cases, they are purely motivational.

I'm thinking about top business schools and their case studies. If I can find a book with $200,000 worth of tuition fees packed into a $6 book, I would be one happy reader.

In short, concepts and mindset are great in developing your skills, now applying them to build billion dollar businesses, that would be challenging.

I think many would be too